Thursday, August 25, 2016

Experiment: Getting NedoSound onto the Fossil, and what happened next


I know that there's been a bit of a break in updates about my progress with getting stuff onto the Fossil. Sorry about that. However, for those who are interested here's the next installment!

As I think I mentioned before, my next experiment was to try Mr NightRadio's NedoSound app on the Fossil. I downloaded it (you can find it here if you're interested in it), and got it into my Treo for beaming. So far so good. NedoSound beamed over very easily.


NedoSound got on there just fine as you can see from the photo above and the one below. So far so good. Of course, what you want to know is did it run?


Well, look at the photo below and you'll see the problem.


That's right. I tried it a couple of times and got the same outcome. It's a shame, not entirely unexpected, but still a shame. So that's NedoSound crossed off the list I'm afraid, unless Mr NightRadio is reading this and knows how to get it to work easily.

For now I'll move on to the next experiment with the Fossil Abacus. More soon!

Monday, August 22, 2016

Handspring Good-Sounds Good MP3 Springboard Module on eBay




Now this really is rare. Who wouldn't want an MP3 player in their Handspring visor? Of course it's bigger than an iPod shuffle and much less versatile, but of course it is a little piece of computing history that fits inside a Springboard slot.

Handspring Good-Sounds Good MP3 Springboard Module

An eyeModule 2 on eBay


Well you don't see these that often although in the last month or so there seems to have been more of them about on eBay. When I say more I sort of mean 3, which isn't a lot really.

Anyway, this is a lovely eyeModule 2 for Handspring Visor, and I thought you might like to know about it.

eyeModule 2 on eBay

Sunday, August 21, 2016

Have any Bhajis Loops instruments, or looking for some to use?

Well you find lots in the Palmorama Bhajis Loops instrument site and if you want to contribute (and you'd be very welcome) just contact me using the form in the about page, I'd be very happy to hear from you.

Sunday, August 14, 2016

Why not take a look in the Palmorama library

All you need to do is click above where it says library, or click here. There's lots of good stuff in there, and I'm doing my best to continue to add to it on a regular basis.

Sunday, August 07, 2016

In 2000: Palm m100, VIIx announced

Take a look in the Palmorama store ... (well, if you want Palm OS stuff anyway)

Have a look in the store for all your Palm OS needs! You can just click above to get to the store. The store has lots of mainly 2nd hand stuff from eBay, but often there's some quite good stuff available, so it is worth a look occasionally. You never know, you might grab a bargain.

Friday, August 05, 2016

The next thing to try out on the Fossil is ...

Something from the rather amazing Mr NightRadio! Some may know that he made an app that enabled sample playback on Palm OS 4 devices. The details of the app are here. It's called nedosound. It hasn't been updated in a while, but I have got it to work before and it does a nice job. So my next step is to try it out on the Fossil and see what happens there!

Thursday, August 04, 2016

And some more of the BeePo 2 screens


When I started to make BeePo 2 I decided to take a different approach to the information and help screens. 


I wanted to have more information available should anyone want it. So I used a different way of providing these screens rather than the info box you can use in standard iziBasic.


It gives me a lot more scope for putting text into the app in a quite simple way, and I was very pleased to see that actually it all worked well on the Fossil.


One thing that is pointless on the Fossil is to put in a web link. The Fossil has no connectivity at all, so it wouldn't work.


But help text does, and on the screen above you can see in the bottom right hand corner I've got up and down arrows so you can scroll. This actually works using the rocker switch on the Fossil.



Well it does run, but ...


As you can see, BeePo 2 loads on the Fossil. So far so good. However, getting it to make a sound is a bit more complex. Every time I tap a button on the interface it seems to trigger a very high pitched sound. This sound seems to get interrupted by tapping a button and triggering a sound from the app itself.

I've never had this problem with sound from an iziBasic developed app before. It's quite a unique occurrence, and I can't think of how to fix it, except to maybe create a test app to see if it happens again. That might take me a little while to do.

BeePo 2 lands on the Fossil


I've got it on there, now to see what it will do!

Next Compile of BeePo


So I've corrected my error in telling the app that it has to have Palm OS5 to work, and now it should accept a lower operating system. The compile has run just fine, and as you can see from the picture just below it's beaming away quite happily to the Fossil.


Next I need to see if it works and if it does what, if anything is broken.

Wednesday, August 03, 2016

BeatPad running on the Fossil


What I really need to do is to make a little video so you can hear the sound coming out of the device driven by BeatPad. It is quiet, very quiet, but it does work amazingly. I couldn't quite believe that. But I'm very glad that it does.

Getting BeatPad on the Fossil


BeatPad was my next choice to try for sound on the Fossil. I have to admit that I had fairly low hopes of this as AxisPad hadn't worked. But I decided to try it anyway.

I used the same approach to get the app onto the Fossil, beaming it using filez to get around the protection problem.

As you can see it loaded fine. It's sitting next to AxisPad with the icon of a guy with headphones on. I always liked that icon a lot.


As I said above I had low hopes of getting this running and making sound, but it worked! It's quiet, very quiet, but it's definitely putting out little bleepy notes from BeatPad! I'm so pleased!

Next to the Fossil, AxisPad from miniMusic


I really like AxisPad from Palm OS developer miniMusic. It's a lovely app and a lot of fun to play with. It was my next choice to move into the Fossil to see if it made any noise or not.

Again I've loaded it and beamed it with filez which takes all the pain out of beaming protected apps.


AxisPad loaded fine, and you can see it above with the big X icon. However, as far as I can tell it does not make any sound at all on the Fossil. It's a bit of a shame really

Tuesday, August 02, 2016

Getting my first app onto the Fossil Palm OS watch (or not)


Beaming from the Handera 330 was pretty easy. However, it had one drawback, and that was that you couldn't beam a protected file from the Handera. However, on the Treo 650 I've got filez, which is an excellent file management app for Palm OS and has no such restrictions to it at all, which makes it excellent for tasks like getting stuff onto the Fossil.

Having said all of that BeePo isn't protected, so that in itself isn't an issue. However, it is for other apps and I'll come to those in another post I expect.


BeePo 2 beamed over with no issues at all. It took a little while as the .prc file is 106k, which, if you were wondering, is actually a bit big for a Palm OS app.


Having said that, it was the least of my worries as you can see from this error message. BeePo is expecting Palm OS 5 to run, and the Fossil only has OS4. Of course I couldn't upgrade this device to PalmOS 5 as it simply isn't built for that at all. It's built for OS4 only.

However, this isn't a massive problem. The reason that BeePo is asking for Palm OS5 is that I've built it that way, and all I need to do next is to recompile it for OS4. That won't take long at all.

Returning to BeePo for the Fossil


Now that my Treo 650 is up and running again I knew I could get to try and make an app or two for the Fossil. To start off with I decided that I'd try to recompile BeePo, which was an old app, in fact one of the first I'd attempted back when I was making very simple (I mean very simple) apps for Palm OS.


So I recompiled it. Directly on my Palm OS Treo 650. It worked just fine! No problems at all ViziBasic and iziBasic working just fine for me.


The app fires up and runs no problem at all. Just as you'd expect. So the next job is to beam it to the Fossil ...

That's what's next!